Hello, here's Ivan, SMGs producer for RISK.
Let me clarify a few things:
We are really grateful for reports, and we have an internal watchlist. Basically there are some names popping up very often when cheating is reported, and that's when we go for our measure of last resort - banning. In this particular case, however, this was not called for in any way. The players have obviously colluded only ONCE with every other game they have been in together lost by both of them. So either it was just a one-time ganging of other players (still not allowed within our fair play rules) or the worst cheating attempt in history.
One way or another, it was not one player with two accounts (an offense we take much more seriously).
Hereby, deducing a reasonable amount of rank points was the way to go.
If it happens again, it will be severe, and the third strike is the ban.
Having said that, we have introduced a new monitoring system in our last version and will ban from now on much more and for good.
Best,
- Ivan@SMG
I've had a reply to my most recent ticket reporting cheater's. Aside from thanking me, the key point of the response was:
"In regards to; Henry the Lion 4, Joseph Dagher and Winston (ah yi) it was found that they have only played together a few times and often come last. Unfortunately, the game they played against you is not enough evidence to hand down a punishment, however, they have been added into our internal watchlist and we will make sure this does not develop into a common occurrence."
That doesn't seem to match with the Fair Play Rules posted by SMG, found here: http://smgstudio.freshdesk.com/support/discussions/topics/11000017727
If the player has been colluding (offences 2 or 3), first their rank will be reset.
If the player continues to collude after a first offence, they may be banned on a second offence depending on the circumstances.
So SMG have records showing they been playing together, aka colluding, on more than one occassion. However, because they don't always win and I'm the first person to report them SMG will not be reseting their rank or punishing them in any way.
Based on what I witnessed of the playing style of "Joseph Dagher" I'm unsure how he could have gotten to Master Level without colluding with others.
Based on that response, it's not surprising less people appear to be reporting cheaters here on this forum, and presumably via tickets too.
So cheaters, you should realise that spending so much time playing with yourself is really not very good for you. But I no longer care and neither does anyone else, so have it!
Hi Guy,
I almost always do raise a ticket. Then I post the same details here so that other players can see who the cheaters are and hopefully avoid playing with them.
I have also raised a ticket suggesting ways SMG could improve the ticket raising process to make it quicker. I got a response saying they have some bug/ticket raising developments in the pipeline, and thanking me for the suggestions, but I doubt it is a priority for them.
It took me longer to raise the last ticket, than it took for the cheaters to wipe me off the board.
Haven't seen any cheaters for a while. I thought the latest updates might have done something to make it too difficult, but here's another example of multiple account cheaters.
The game was hosted by Henry the Lion 4 - Expert Level (Red)
Other players were:
Joseph Dagher - Master Level (Green)
Winston (ah yi) - Beginner Level (Blue)
and myself:
GPlayerKB - Expert Level (Red)
(Screen shot included below)
Red and Green are definitely cheaters, not sure about Blue.
I
was lucky enough to be in a good position from start. Due to the random
allocation of territories I had 3 of the 4 countires in South America,
with decent numbers of troops in and nearby. Within round 1 I had full
control of the continent.
Red requested an alliance which I ignored.
He then attacked me knocking out much of my strength in S America. I
was able to regain it, still with fairly decent strength.
From then on Red continued to all out attack me exclusively. So muich so that I was knocked out within the 1st 5 rounds, without even getting a chance to use any cards. At first I thought he was holding a grudge for refusing his alliance and hurting his army. So when I realised I was going to be knocked out I aimed to let one of the other players finish me off for my cards.
Once I was knocked out I realised Red and Green were deifinitely the same user or working together. Green swallowed up continents without making any attempts to defend. Red had multiple borders with enough troops to take out Green 1 troop and stop Green receiving continent bonuses for America and Europe but he didn't take them.
Once Blue was knocked out Green mopped up
the Red territories to win. The game was over within 20 minutes. Without
the support of 1 or 2 other players Green could never have usually
reached master level playing like that. (Unfortunately I only took screen shots towards the end)
Birdie Rossi 6 & Sven Gudelj seem to be the same player. All borders are protected by 1 piece at all times. I hit one the other one immediately attacks me even though we were allies. It is just not how two different players normally play. Please check and suspend them. I am quite sure they are on the same IP. Impossible to get a fair game with cheaters.
Pascole Krystal
I have reported all the cheaters that I know for sure in the game because some of them are very obvious. However, this issue has yet to be resolved. I would like to be able to get back into the game after being wiped so that I can see the end of the game and figure out who's cheating for real. This game is not fun at all if people cheat and I am considering to find something else more entertaining and healthy to play.
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