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Cheating vs Exploit

You should be careful accusing someone of cheating.


 -Two players ganging up on you is NOT CHEATING!

- One player playing two accounts is NOT CHEATING!

- BOTS tough one, but still saying the BOT has no actual cheats but just another account to try and give the player an edge. Not much dif. then having a second account. Still saying this is NOT CHEATING!


I calls these exploiting a games feature, and impossible to stop.


I have hundreds of games logged in Risk, and have not seen one person actual cheat, as in roll sixes every roll, control the game so no one can move but only them, GOD mode where you can't hurt them, etc. NOT ONCE!


I do see many players trying to get an advantage with a second account, but honestly most of them suck and need two accounts.


I see many posts about cheating, but I challenge any of you, prove they actual have cheats vs just playing a second player who also is not cheating rather then playing dirty.




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Matt....it doesn't matter what YOU regard as cheating.


You don't get to make up your own personal rules.


If you use more than one account YOU ARE CHEATING.


Are you a cheater?  Are you using more than one account?  Is that why you're so defensive?


If you are stop cheating lol.


People complaining about the rampant cheating are "whiners" lol?  You are warped dude.  Do you not realize people can watch games after they're eliminated?  We can all see these cheaters cheating.  You're the only one here defending it.


I'll play anyone in a straight up game anytime but since you cheat I'm not interested in playing you.

Matt is pathetic. 

And anyone who completely contradicts a stated rule about using two accounts is either pathetic or cheater or just a POS. 

Yeah, it's just me Matt, lol.

 

Fair Play Rules

To clear up any confusion in the community on what constitutes cheating we have the following Fair Play Rules..

  1. Hacking the game, in any way, is cheating.

  2. Using multiple accounts in the same game to gain an advantage is cheating.

  3. Playing with someone you know and working together to gain advantage is cheating.  


 Pay attention to number 2 Matt.

If you're using more than one account YOU ARE CHEATING. 

Sorry about reality. 

Are you using more than one account?  Is that why you're so defensive?



Seriously, man.  You spend A LOT OF TIME arguing this point to death.  The lady doth protest wayyyyyyy . too much.   


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Perspective...


You scream cheaters, everyone a cheater, cheater - cheater - cheater...

I just play, don't really care if you have a teammate, I like the challenge, and can beat both of you.


To me, as long as you are not using a cheat to hack the game, and are rolling same dice as me (win some/lose some), fare game - bring it on! I've asked for team (co-op) mode several times, would like to play team mode, think that would be fun.


What not fun to me is all you whiners (Jason) complaining about how you suck and it's everyone else's fault. Face it, you just have no game!

If you use a flaw that's not publicly known to gain an advantage in a game, you're cheating.  If you use multiple accounts, you;re cheating.


Why do you insist on defending this behaviour?

Well good luck screaming at the developers to make all players play fairly, good luck with that!

I posted this a long time ago when everyone was blaming the developers to fix it.. I was making the claim there is not a cheat being used for them to go fix. Only players exploiting the game, and not playing fairly.


You can call me a cheater if you like Jason, if it makes you feel better. You seem shallow enough to do just that. Anyone who has a dif. opinion then you must be cheating, I get it.

 "Narrow my vocab"?  You mean by using words correctly and calling cheating "cheating"?  Nobody cares if you don't understand what the word cheating means.  Using more than one account is cheating.  It's not even debatable.  I don't care what your personal definition of "cheating" is, you don't get to just make up new meaning for words lol.


Just because something is possible doesn't mean it isn't cheating.  PEDs are used all the time in sports....still cheating, not an "exploit".


Like I asked, are you one of the cheaters using 2 accounts? 


Using 2 accounts is cheating.  It's gives an unfair advantage.  2 accounts gives a player 2 times as many men....2 times as many rolls.....2 times as many cards......they can use one account to protect the other, etc.  When you have 20 men and the other guy has 40......how is that not cheating? 


It's against the rules to use more than one account, right?


http://smgstudio.freshdesk.com/support/discussions/topics/11000017727

Fair Play Rules

To clear up any confusion in the community on what constitutes cheating we have the following Fair Play Rules..

  1. Hacking the game, in any way, is cheating.

  2. Using multiple accounts in the same game to gain an advantage is cheating.

  3. Playing with someone you know and working together to gain advantage is cheating.


Pay special attention to number 2 there, that's from SMG itself.



So go tell someone else your personal definition of cheating because it doesn't change reality and the reality is this game has a problem with cheaters and they're ruining it.


With the spectate feature all you have do is watch the game until the end and you can see if someone is a cheater and I see it all the time. 

Sure...


To me, the dif. between a cheat and an exploit, is one is fixable.

So ya I praise the game developers, although a lot of team playing (request team mode pls), but can't say I see any real cheats I'm expecting them to fix. No GOD mode, or someone rolling ALL SIXES, or freezes the game for everyone but themselves. I'm only using a lesser word to describe two players allying to win. "Exploiting the game, but still rolling same dice, same rules, etc as everyone else"


Your welcome to narrow your vocab to one word for everything, and call everything a cheat. But, I promise you your complaints will go unheard by the developers cause your only crying wolf, and not pointing out any actual fixable problem.

Are you one of the cheaters using 2 accounts Matt?  Is that why you're so defensive about it?

You're right, what you said isn't worth repeating. I don't know or care what an example of "exploiting" the game would be. I could not care less.


What I know is that one person using two accounts pretending to be two different people is cheating.  In what universe is having a 2 to 1 advantage by pretending to be 2 different people not cheating?  How is that not cheating?  If one player was just given 2 times as many troops and two times as many turns two times as many cards as everyone else do you think that wouldn't be cheating either?  Because that's what playing with two accounts is. 


You seem to think if it's possible that means it's not cheating which is absurd.


If you need 2 accounts to win or if winning a dumb game means that much to you that's just sad.

Not worth repeating,,,


Jason,

What game example would demonstrate an EXPLOIT ?

 Are you insane?  How is one player using 2 accounts not cheating?  It's exactly cheating.


Do you know what the word "cheating" means?


Using 2 accounts gives you an unfair advantage over people NOT CHEATING.

Philippe Comtois has clearly hacked the game. He attacked time after time with an army of 47 against some 1’s and 2’s. But after each win, 0 troops were put into the conquered territories. After 6 or 7 times of this happening and at the conclusion of his turn, every conquered territory then had 47 troops put in it. This changed his total troops from 50 something to over 400 in one turn.