Steven Conway,
My initial post wasn't to define the exact definition of cheating, your taking it out of context a bit.
My goal was to voice the difference or degree of cheating. To point out someone hacking the game and altering code to roll sixes ever roll and win 100% of every game they play. Cheating, and detrimental to the game! (Example...)
- On the other hand, you have two players who don't know each other, ally in the game, and have a motive to win the game together with an advantage from allying. Not cheating, I get it! Built in game feature.
- Same player(s), plays another game and every game with intention to ally with another player they don't know, but sole purpose (intention) to gain an advantage in every game to win using ally. Cheating, or just using a game built in feature, exploiting that feature.
- Same player plays EXACT same behavior, but actually know the other player. Intention is exact same, should we ban both examples? If yes, why have ally in the game ?
Per rules, two players can know each other and play in the same game as long as their intention is to win the game as a solo player, easy enough!
- Do I now need to attack my friend EVERY turn to prove I hate him and want to cream him off the map like I have a grudge?
...simply so you don't call me a cheater ?
Or can I not hate him so much, and attack others.
How often do you expect me to attack him?
When do you start calling me a cheater, read the forums, matter of time ?
- Most posts I read are that dreaded "I suck, so you must be cheating", cheat! It's wide spread.
Be a lot easier if SMG implemented co-op (team) mode, 2vs2's. Give me a place to play, and I wont play with my friend in your game. Cheating or not cheating... Allying!
Just saying, asking (yes I posted suggestion for this, no votes)
To put this nicely, I THINK you all are crying wolf waaaaaaaaaaay too much, and SMG doesn't have the time to police players allying (babysit), and trying to decide who is and isn't... I see very little proof to what I refer to as REAL CHEATS, and think SMG is doing a good job to prevent this. Read the forums, most of you must disagree on this with the amount of cheater cheater posts.
Same posts over and over, he's not playing fair... Still referred to players rolls the same dice, and same game code (un-altered) as everyone else. ZERO advantage, other than having a buddy, but we're trying to define does he know him or not to distinguish cheating.
Really ?
Wow long post, do what you want with this. (Not worth proofing, nothing mean or bad meant, pls take it as general friendly discussion - disclaimer)
Matt
2 accounts is cheating. Matt L. should be under investigation.
SMG can place restrictions on how many times you can play with the same person in 'Global Domination'. Having a reward system that isn't random players playing each other is not fair. Or, SMG could notify potential players that others have a history of playing together, or SMG could force auto-matching and do so in a random pattern making some wait 1sec and others 15sec so the chance of getting your 2nd account in the wait list together would be lower. Don't tell me SMG can't do other things... Matt L. stop preaching your crap. Your suggest was to have users complain to the population/other players? That is a joke! Can SME eliminate it completely? No, but they can take steps to deter the activity... you think the lock on your door at home makes you safe Matt? They others here are asking SMG to put more locks on the door. lol criminals are criminals... scum is scum... they will get what they want. Welcome to reality Matt. It would be nice if you would join us. Same to all you other fairy-tailers who think winning with 2 accounts is a win... lol you are all a joke (Lou the Fist8, Libby Sr. 4)
Seriously, man. You spend A LOT OF TIME arguing this point to death. The lady doth protest wayyyyyyy . too much.
All good points, but my point I'm really trying to make is this:
- Cheating, in my opinion, is fixable by a software update, or an anti cheat program, etc.
- Exploiting, in my opinion, is something the developers can't really fix. Even one guy, two accounts - Have one on WiFi, one on cell towers, now their IP's are different, so once again developers can't stop that, so I call this an exploit.
Matt L
You should be careful accusing someone of cheating.
-Two players ganging up on you is NOT CHEATING!
- One player playing two accounts is NOT CHEATING!
- BOTS tough one, but still saying the BOT has no actual cheats but just another account to try and give the player an edge. Not much dif. then having a second account. Still saying this is NOT CHEATING!
I calls these exploiting a games feature, and impossible to stop.
I have hundreds of games logged in Risk, and have not seen one person actual cheat, as in roll sixes every roll, control the game so no one can move but only them, GOD mode where you can't hurt them, etc. NOT ONCE!
I do see many players trying to get an advantage with a second account, but honestly most of them suck and need two accounts.
I see many posts about cheating, but I challenge any of you, prove they actual have cheats vs just playing a second player who also is not cheating rather then playing dirty.
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