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You should be careful accusing someone of cheating.

 -Two players ganging up on you is NOT CHEATING!

- One player playing two accounts is NOT CHEATING!

- BOTS tough one, but still saying the BOT has no actual cheats but just another account to try and give the player an edge. Not much dif. then having a second account. Still saying this is NOT CHEATING!

I calls these exploiting a games feature, and impossible to stop.

I have hundreds of games logged in Risk, and have not seen one person actual cheat, as in roll sixes every roll, control the game so no one can move but only them, GOD mode where you can't hurt them, etc. NOT ONCE!

I do see many players trying to get an advantage with a second account, but honestly most of them suck and need two accounts.

I see many posts about cheating, but I challenge any of you, prove they actual have cheats vs just playing a second player who also is not cheating rather then playing dirty.

Fair play, irrelevant the wrong term,

Alot of the time it's "not as important as it could/should be" and that's purely down to our survival instinct,i find even with 1 person owning both accounts they end up playing them as separate players and struggle with the concept of one being the sacrificial lamb so to speak.

yes the person wins more as 2 players but the game itself doesn't get affected very much.

Kevin,

Without a realistic example, hard to answer, but...

If they can't stop it, I would suspect they can't prove it either, and that is the prob with most players complaining about cheats - no proof. Remember, in the USA without proof your presumed innocent! 

- There is the possibility they weren't cheating! 

SMG Rules state:

If you wish to play with people you know please use the Play with Friends mode. If you still wish to play with friends against real opponents, play as if they were an enemy, not an ally. 

So now we're down to proving "Intent", cause it's even in the rules friends can play together, just not as allies. 

Note - I'm not the one screaming everyone is cheating,

So unless you can prove someone intent... or show proof of a cheat being used.

So to twist your question, why is it you seem to believe if the makers have no way of stopping, that is 100% cheating?

I'm only questioning how you are all so sure your right? (Innocent until proven guilty!)

I don't think everyone is cheating, in fact I think very little are, so it's not up to me to prove they are, it's up to you.

Matt is this thread your diary now lol?

Quit defending cheating and quit cheating.

Kevin....1 person using 2 accounts isn't "irrelevant" and it's not just terrible players doing it.

1 person getting twice as many rolls, twice as many turns, twice as many cards, twice as many men....isn't "irrelevant".

How good they are or aren't is irrelevant when they have such a huge advantage.  I lost a  game a while back (I posted pics in this thread I believe, if not this thread it's in another thread in these forums) where it was down to 3 players, I had Australia.  One of the other "two" players attacked my in Australia while ignoring the other player.  We all were basically equal before the attack.  I thought the player attacking me was suiciding but that wasnt' the case.  It was ONE player attacking me with his sock account so his real account could finish me off and win the game.

There was absolutely nothing I could do about it because he had 2X the resources I had.

So he finished me off then finished off his other account which did nothing but fortify after I was eliminated.

I don't know why you think only bad players are cheating or why "most" who use 2 accounts are so bad that them having twice the resources  as everyone else is "irrelevant" because that hasn't been my experience at all.  Most of the players I've seen using 2 accounts were very craft about doing it.

But whether they're "good" or not is moot.  2 accounts gives them a huge advantage over anyone using 1 account and it's cheating.

i know a tad late replying to this thread lol and havnt read all comments, but from a glance first thought is....

Why is it you seem to believe if the makers have no way to stop something its not cheating?

I do agree most with 2 accounts are so bad it's irrelevant but if used "correctly" that being imo one for ranking the other canon fodder, that is out and out cheating

Wow, I am now Intermediate, ranked 71k, haven't been this rank in a looooong time.

I'm owning it, don't feel anyone was cheating, and happy to continue to play against anyone, I don't boot anyone from my games.

I was Grand Master, rank around 2200.

Gotten my arsue handed to me pretty bad lately, export now, around 40,000 rank last I checked. Maybe worse but still export, think master is around 18k, or 12k, don't remember. Master is easy, GM is way tough., even harder keeping it. If players didn't see your title, mann be a way dif. game, puts a target on your head, everyone is auto ally against you just because of your title. I get it, makes sense, I would attack me to if Grand Master.

I'm happy to report, even though I've gotten whopped lately, ZERO games have been from others cheating, I've simply just lost more than I've won.

Yaa, think that's pretty impressive to play upwards of 20-30 games and have little to no odd game play. Won some, lost many, but mostly solid game play. I do set min level to join at beginner, think that helps a bit.

Grand Master to Export barely.., and not from anyone cheating against me. Thanks for honest play :)

Stating the rule, no debate - SMG says we can play as friends.

SMG stated "If you still wish to play with friends against real opponents, play as if they were an enemy, not an ally"

So unless you can prove our intent, "Innocent until proven guilty", right? I've/Wev'e done nothing wrong. Even states in the rules we can play as friends!

SMG stated "If you still wish to play with friends against real opponents, play as if they were an enemy, not an ally"

So unless you can prove our intent, cause last time I checked we're "Innocent until proven guilty", right? I've done nothing wrong unless you have proof otherwise, so back off! Even states in the rules we can play as friends!

Jason,

Per SMG Rules that you keep trying to quote:

1) Hacking the game, in any way, is cheating.

2) Using multiple accounts in the same game to gain an advantage is cheating.

3) Playing with someone you know and working together to gain advantage is cheating.  

If you wish to play with people you know please use the Play with Friends mode. If you still wish to play with friends against real opponents, play as if they were an enemy, not an ally.

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They even state "in the same game to gain an advantage" & "and working together to gain advantage", then wrap it up with "If you still wish to play with friends against real opponents, play as if they were an enemy, not an ally."

There's the key "If you still wish to play with friends against real opponents, play as if they were an enemy, not an ally"

If we want to play as friends, as long as not playing as allies, SMG says that's allowed!

Right on, we can play with friends, just people like you screaming we can't.

Have no idea what point your trying to make with a random example that doesn't exist in the board-game Risk.

This game used to be all about playing with friends, in fact it was the only way you could play! Now it's no friends allowed, and if you don't win then it must be from all the other's cheating!

I say No Friends Allowed, as in somewhere out of THIN AIR, you and most everyone else figured out how to prove someone's intent. Two friends playing a game have to be cheaters by your definition, like ZERO chance their not cheating.

My friends, assume I'm not cheating, and would be happy I joined their game. If it was only an option in NEW RISK to offer co-op play mode. Where friends are allowed to play a game together again.

Too much whining about cheaters, I think the whiners mostly just suck! Of course, I can't defend that anymore then you can defend your claims.

I reported it.  I clicked on the report for cheating button and sent in a ticket with all the info and screen shots.

"Absolutely nothing I could do about it."

Click the report button on each one, select collaboration and type in the name of one of the accounts he's collaborating with. Accounts get deleted in some time. You win.